Winners Always Quit. A Raw interview with Gabrielle Ianniello the Corporate Quitter

Join us as we challenge the traditional notions of achievement and instead, encourage everyone to embrace the unique path to a fulfilling life. In this episode, we explore the fluctuating nature of progress as we talk to a real-live millennial who happens to also be one of our favorite podcast hosts, Gabby Ianniello, from the Corporate Quitter Podcast.

We reflect on the idea of transitioning from a structured corporate job to a life brimming with variety and creativity and Gabby’s realization that rigid schedules and ceaseless productivity were affecting her well-being. Once fixated on maximum productivity, she now treasures connections, joy, and personal fulfillment.

This discussion touches upon the pressures to adhere to conventional educational and career paths and the courage it takes to diverge from expectations. We discuss the fluctuating nature of progress and how it is embraced by our different generations.

Gabby talks about how her structured yet spontaneous approach to her days fosters creativity and better results. When the true cost of conformity is revealed, we reach an understanding that personal and creative fulfillment can outweigh financial gains. We invite you to reflect on your definition of success and to prioritize joy, connection, and f*ing authenticity on your journey to self-discovery.

Timeline Summary:

[01:04] How Gabby went from teaching to finance to building her brand

[03:19] The meditation retreat that re-sparked Gabby’s spirit

[04:46] Where the “F*ck it” energy came from?

[05:44] Why structure caused Gabby intense anxiety in college

[07:15] How Gabby finally silenced the “squirrels” in her brain

[11:20] Gabby’s advice on breaking conditioning for older generations

[15:49] Gabby’s definition of success in business and life

[21:41] Toxic school system pushing out burnt out teachers like Gabby

[22:49] Exposure to possibilities through the internet

[24:45] It’s not knowledge we need - it’s deprogramming

[27:35] Failing enough times makes you invincible

[30:43] Overcoming deep relationship rejection

[34:10] What’s next for Gabby

 
Connect with Gabriel Ianniello:

Gabby’s consulting agency: SheLikesToGab.com

Corporate Quitter: corporatequitter.com

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Transcript

Nick: 0:05

We unintentionally gave up. Over time we let ourselves down. We didn't teach or respect the struggle. Our value disappeared over time replaced with masks disguised as truth. I mean, our words became empty and our presence became obsolete. Now we face our biggest struggle, and it's time to rip the masks off. More than ever, it's time to return to our true selves. Our real identity. It's time to be fucking offensive. We haven't invited and we are so freaking actually fucking excited. Because Gabrielle, we were gonna have you do this podcast worked for us like a couple of years ago before COVID.

Gabby Ianniello: 0:55

Like literally two years ago.

Unknown: 0:56

Yeah, two years ago.

Nick: 0:57

Oh two? Wow. Yeah. Wow. We've obviously followed your journey. You're fucking crazy. And we said,

Gabby Ianniello: 1:04

I'm still I'm glad you're still around, honestly, because some people were like, Yo, after the feed pick thing. No, no, no, no, no.

Nick: 1:13

No, not at all. We really liked you a lot. The thing was, is that we felt bad because we weren't in a place to do what we're doing now. So we didn't want you were just really getting started. We didn't want to, like lead you on and get all fucked up. And then you're feel like you're a piece of shit. Because nobody wanted to go with you.

Unknown: 1:30

I can't imagine that she could feel that way. No.

Nick: 1:35

But no, seriously, so obviously, you've done fucking awesome things. And we've seen it the whole time. sort of feel like little creepers watching you. But I mean, that's what you do. But we just want to go on so we want you just sort of bust loose and just tell us corporate quitter. I know you're moving on to a lot of different things. But where the fuck did you even come from?

Nancy: 1:56

Like, what? How did it like? Yeah, it's

Gabby Ianniello: 1:59

interesting, because when I backtrack my story, I'm still like, What the fuck? How did I even get here? Because I was told to go the traditional path and be a teacher. And I did all that. And then after graduation, I was like, fuck this, I can't make any money. This sucks. Like I'm stuck in a system. I don't want to do this. And so naturally, I've always been pivoting and doing something different. So went into Wall Street for a little bit right to make some money, pay off my student loans kind of went to New York and played a little bit and frolicked in the borough's and then you know, lo and behold, a couple years later decided to quit hence why corporate quitter was born. But I mean, ever since then, I've just been pivoting and trying things differently. Because if you go the traditional route, you always get fucked, like you always defunct, you know, it just never made sense for me to do the 510 year plan, like ever. And also, my life changes so quickly, because as you guys know, I kind of like just go with the flow literally every single day, which is both amazing and chaotic at the same time. Right. Corporate quitter was born in May of 2021. And since then, it's just been like a rocket ship launch, like I'm just holding on for dear life. And now I feel like it could finally breathe a little bit. But it came so quickly. And I wasn't expecting it. Like I think a lot of people talk about, oh, it takes 10 years of working on something specifically to make, you know, some sort of explosion happen or whatever. And a lot of that did take a lot of effort right beforehand of learning, self worth, and all the crazy things that I had to do. I have plenty of stories that I haven't even shared on social, right, right, naked women's retreats and this shroom trip and just like wild things

Nick: 3:24

is wasn't true as well being lovely. They

Gabby Ianniello: 3:26

were they were separate because I think that would have been a little. But I'm sure it's on my docket at some point to combine the two because there's something to be said about doing both of those things and having an ego death experience in multiple facets when I quit. It wasn't the craziest thing I've done crazier. I started this in May 2021. Didn't really know what I was going to do how to plan was like, I'm gonna make it vague. Like I'll figure it out as I go. And it's funny because when around the time that you and I met was when my New York Times article came out. And that's when things just launched the rocketship just launched like I was already going viral a few months in Yeah, because of the great resignation and somehow intuitively I knew the timing was going to be good which is wild to begin with. But So ever since then, it's just been like just insanity between media tours and brand deals and I did a documentary and just like just madness and it's also been a shitshow as you guys have seen it's been both amazing and also absolutely fucking terrifying and just everything burning and you're

Nick: 4:20

hilarious you say online you're fucking pumped or whatever and then the next day you're just like but that's the realness right? That's the fucking shit when you said that people say it's going to take 10 years so first of all, I just want to say give yourself some fucking credit right because awesome you bust ass and that right there alone you have to be able to take the nose with the Yaz with the as what the fuck knows what the Yeah, the knows what the yes is and whatever and I think that's part of the whole thing with you that we've followed and seen. Where did you get that?

Gabby Ianniello: 4:58

The pizzazz or like the fucking Energy like, yeah, so it's like you

Nancy: 5:01

don't give up. Like, this is not working. So you're gonna go this way, or you're gonna you know what I mean? Like, you're down one day. And obviously, you must be up a lot because you're doing your shit. You're doing it. And you're a millennial, I think,

Gabby Ianniello: 5:16

right? Yeah. 93 baby, and I just turned 30. So Yeah.

Nancy: 5:20

Where's that coming from? Is it coming? Like

Nick: 5:23

you learn from your parents? Some things? Yeah, we can get some of that from our parents. But ultimately, you have made the decision, right? It's all about our choice. It's about our fucking decisions. So you've ultimately made the decision to do what you're doing. And I'm sure people have told you you're fucking crazy. This is Oh, yeah, you know, especially being I mean, shipped when

Gabby Ianniello: 5:44

we were first married. Both of you like even your business. The fact that you even have a business is fucking crazy. Yeah, notice, you know what I mean? Like, it's insane. Like, think about the percentage of people who just are like following the man, like taking a paycheck. Oh, yeah. We're also like, within that realm of sparkly people who are doing shit and like, just go on with it. Yeah.

Nick: 6:02

I'm gonna do my fucking eyes like y'all. Y'all gotta see your eyes right now. She's field she has her eyes are literally like, balls like pearls on the pearl earrings. It's fucking awesome. So no, seriously, where did what do you attribute a lot of that to?

Gabby Ianniello: 6:20

I think I've always had a bit of a not a sparkly nose. So when I was younger, I definitely had a personality like I won, like when I was like a toddler. Like I wanted the personality contests like at a you know, a show or whatever, like a pageant when I was like two or something. But then I feel like between the ages of like 10 And you know, kind of being a high schooler that spark leanness went away because responsibility was taken on. So I'm the oldest daughter and I have a brother who's 10 years younger. So I feel like oh, that dissipated a little bit. So I had become like, second mom. And also my parents are entrepreneurs. So they were building a business at the same time. So it was just like, a lot of chaos amidst the 2008 crash and all that. So I actually lost the spark leanness for like a good decade, if not longer, and I I remember specifically feeling like that spark leanness come back after I went on a 10 day silent meditation retreat that I had no idea what I signed up for. And because of that, but then, you know, the first three days, all I was doing was like, running rampant in my head. Right, the squirrels in my brain were just running. And then by like, the fourth day was just silence. And then from then on, it was just like bliss. Like by the final days, I felt like I was almost hallucinating because things were just so crystal clear, like I could almost seemed like, outside the matrix, like things didn't faze me quite the same, like the Fuckit mode really turned on. Because I realized, oh, wait, I'm in the present. And this is where life is. And this is where the joy comes from. Not looking in the past, and a lot of people are not looking in the future, which is again, where like the sparkliest comes in because when I even look at my current reality, I'm back living at my parents. And like I had, at one point, things were so bad, I had to take out my 401k early and Okay, that's great. That's terrible. But I've also made 30 grand and brand deals. So like when you and that doesn't happen for most people, especially within the first couple. So I mean, there are flip sides to both things. It's just really a perspective shift. And also, I look at things as the long term game. So like, I know, in the two years that I've been doing this, when you look at like those, let's say bigger pieces, like Oh, I haven't hit six figures, and like, I spent more than I made and blah, blah, blah, it looks like I'm losing. But I also know I'm setting up success for the future. And that was the same thing for the 10 day silent meditation, retreat, the shrooms thing, like literally so many other things that I've done that are just like out of just crazy, like saying yes to trips, and just things that I've no place being but it ultimately was like a thing that I need to go through to get me to my next life, essentially.

Nick: 8:31

So that's pretty cool. Because you and I are probably like, almost aligned the same when it comes to like just being all over the place. We can take that and we can put it in the right direction. But my question would be half the time. So first of all, you're young. Right? When you were young, I got plenty of time. So I'm saying even when you weren't a tree, you were young, right? So so to even come to a point where you want to make that decision to even change or to even do that is fucking awesome. Number one. Number two, your mind like a hamster wheel, right? Your mind is just going round and round Round Round. So you get to this retreat, because I'm going to be a little selfish now. And I'm going to ask this for myself. Like, let's have a little conversation here. How are you even to sort of break out of that hamster wheel, right? Because I know it's a retreat, and I know, so you're in a position where a lot of people are doing the same thing. And you know what I'm saying you can probably get into that mindset, maybe a little, but that's fucking heart silent. That's fucking hard to silence the shit that going on in your mind.

Gabby Ianniello: 9:30

I did not know what I signed up for, like at all. And honestly, I wanted to bail multiple times. But I was the driver for a group of people who were women. I was the only woman and I was the driver. So I couldn't even get to my guy friends who I drove so I'm gonna leave and come back in 10 days to get them It didn't have cell phone. I didn't have to nothing like no communication period. So it was like I literally can't leave like God universe, whatever this in this moment. Like I had to be there and suffer through it.

Nick: 9:59

That was the universe like they were pushing you into that time, that was your time to do that, which is awesome. Would you suggest that to people,

Gabby Ianniello: 10:06

whenever I talk to people like, and the thing too, it's free, the one that I went to free, they feed you for free, it's donation basis, every so often I'll like throw money to them because I still respect the organization. And one day I'll go back and do it again, when I'm ready for that sort of, kind of, you know, major up leveling and that sort that's a bit gentle than like something like an Ayahuasca where you're puking and shitting your bangs out, which I don't know if I'll be able to handle that.

Nancy: 10:30

Yeah. Yeah,

Gabby Ianniello: 10:34

but I will say you are going to change when you leave. So for context, when basically, I came back from their treat, I quit my nannying job and got my real estate license and was starting that within a month. So that was like my official like, I don't give a fuck, like Yeah, so once I had that clarity, I was just like, go. And so since then, I've kind of had similar experiences that lead me to that place of like, once we dissolve the ego and the fear and the judgment, we just go for whatever's next for us. And I mean, I land on my feet, it sucks, because a lot of times those initial breakthroughs lead to like literally, like skate like, teeth dragging on the pavement moments. Yeah. But then I always end up doing better. You know,

Nick: 11:10

I keep going back to the young thing, because it does matter, right? It's people think that, Oh, I'm old, I can't do that shit or whatever. And that's just such a fucking mindfuck. Right? That's just such a lie that people are telling themselves. What kind of like advice would you give? And I, I seriously, I'm going to tell you right now, I love the fact that I'm asking you a younger person about advice, because I think that's No, seriously, like, that's another thing that people don't realize, like, my generation, acting like, I'm some old fuck, which I'm not old, generation up. But my generation is like, you know, we fucking know everything. And you're not going to tell me anything. And it's like, I was brought up, you know, respect your elders, and whatever they say is right, and blah, blah, blah. And it's just, fuck, it's just not like that anymore. Like for, first of all, what it is that we're all human. And we all learn at different fucking levels. And people don't realize that. And so if you can't realize that, or accept the fact that we are just human, and you may know way more than I do, or at least in your space, you may know more than I do. What advice do you think you would give to a person of the older generation about that? We say corporate quitting, and people take it away. Oh, that's a bad thing. You quit your job.

Nancy: 12:26

So where were you working? When you did that, though? I was

Gabby Ianniello: 12:29

in like the stuffiness environment. So I was in asset management down on Wall Street. So yeah, I was an assistant. And luckily, I got promoted. I was well respected in my industry and got promoted to being a marketing coordinator within our real estate sector before I was kind of in the forex trading world like the Bloomberg terminal people kind of going at it that I got basically promoted as the pandemic hit. So being in real estate during that time is not ideal. It was just a crash. It was terrible. But it led me to quit. It was great, ya know? So what

Nick: 12:57

kind of because yeah, we were doing real estate back in 2008. When the fucking recession hit? Yes. So we totally can't even imagine I'm saying it's so fucked up. Because we took we there was nothing for sale. Right? Everything was rentals. We took all those developments and all those condos, the GSEs were fucked because they were selling, trying to sell condos when nobody was buying. So they literally were turning these buildings into rental essence. Yeah, you know what I mean? So anyway, so we were there. But what do you tell someone, an older person that is just fucked up right now and has had it or is trying to think about moving into a different, and this isn't just about corporate quitting? This is about anything in life. We talked about giving up like, it's a good thing. I'm not even.

Nancy: 13:44

Yeah, I think with with the older generation, it's always all those millennials. You know, they think that they don't have to work you know, and, and I think they always just think they're not working from nine to five. You know what I mean? That, but you are working? You work? Oh, yeah. Harder than a nine to five. You don't? Yeah. But it's like, oh, they just want to sit home and just, you know, play their games and do something on the side do a computer. I just don't think it's like that anymore. You know what I mean? Or I don't like well,

Nick: 14:12

maybe. Okay, let's talk about that for a second. We'll get back to what the advice is. But what is your day like? Like? So what is it for you like that? Because you are all over the place. But you obviously are still happy? I mean, you're obviously still doing what the fuck you want to do?

Gabby Ianniello: 14:29

Yeah, I mean, so my days vary, which I prefer. And that's why when I was an assistant on Wall Street, I was thriving because even though I didn't show up to the same place every day and do the commute, which I fucking hated, but I love it every single day was different. So I structure my days the same way. They're not instructed, but of course, I have calls and things that I have to do and I have client work that have deliverables on certain days that I have to meet. But I mean, everything is very flowy. So it's, you know, I have to make sure things are posted at a certain time and whatever but I mean, like today, I woke up in the morning for a cup of coffee did some work in the morning. And that was like, Oh, I feel like painting for three hours. And so I painted and dance around and like did some baking like, whatever. But I mean, like it really, I found that I make more progress when I'm kind of like playing and I'm in more flow and kind of attune to what my body says is the right time to do things, right versus what I used to do, which is like, Will myself to work and come up with creative ideas when my brain and my eyes are bloodshot, like that does nothing. Right. So now I work more in like intentionality. And I do have obviously, like an agenda. Like I have a book that says, Okay, I have to do these. And this is where the deadlines are. But I mean, I do better work when I'm in play mode than I am when I'm really stuffy. Sure. So, you know, but it's funny, because when I look at my corporate job, you know, 40 hours a week after taxes was bringing on maybe like, 4500 $5,000 a month? Yeah, I'm just making the same thing for less money and more play. Why would I go back?

Nick: 15:49

Another thing about that is when you say that, you know, we've been talking about what you say what you're making, but I think your definition of success has got to be different today than it was that

Gabby Ianniello: 15:59

Oh, yes. 1,000%. I was thriving and being productive. So it's like, the maximum hours that I output, right? I want to come home and be exhausted and put my head on the pillow and be like, done. Yeah, that's what I felt like I was worthy of basically existing on this planet, right. And now like, none of that fucking matters anymore. All that matters is that every day I'm connecting with people that I like, I'm how I like that I'm being mirrored in, the people that I'm working with are cool. They're up to cool things, like I'm very particular about the things that I do now. And everything is with this perspective of like, well, if I'm not having fun, I'm not going to do it. And I mean, that more of like, I'm not going to not do my business spreadsheet, you know, I'm not gonna not do my time to do those things. But I almost like appease my inner child so that she doesn't rant and rage. And while I have to, then later on transfer some time, I'm like, you can have you can have playtime, but then later on, we have to go balance the books. Okay, girl,

Nancy: 16:51

oh, boy, he's gonna be playing afterwards.

Nick: 16:54

Nancy's gonna be calling you. But I mean, that seriously, that's an important thing that people should know that what you're doing is successful to you? Well, first of all, it's successful to you, right? It's your definition of success. That's your life. And I think for so long, people have gotten it wrong. People take a definition of something and they put their own spin on it. But that's based off of regurgitated fucking information that's been lied to for so many fucking years about what something is. It's not just success. This is a multitude of things.

Nancy: 17:32

I'll be honest. I mean, I, I listen to you, and I look at everything. And I'm just like, I'm that person that, like was a nine to five. You know, you gotta put so much money. You know? Like, it just freaks me out. Oh, yeah. It's terrifying. How do you like, it just freaks me out. Like, sometimes when I wasn't Yeah, I'm like, that would, I don't know, I think I'd have an anxiety attack every day or

Gabby Ianniello: 18:01

so other way didn't used to always be like this. But just crazy. Because up until I think I was, again, the meditation retreat feels like a very, that I think I was 22 or 23 when I did that. But up until that point, I was becoming so anxious with being perfect and having a structured schedule and getting my 4.0 GPA in college. And I had three jobs and like I was doing all this stuff. And like, it came to the point that I was so riddled with anxiety that I could no longer function or have fun. Like, it was such a pendulum swing of the other way of like, oh my god, we didn't wake up at five and read our book for 30 minutes, I'm going to hell type like, oh my god, I'm not gonna be successful like that. I just wanted to say, okay, like, what if we did the opposite, we'll be still die, right? Because we feel like we're dying right now by being so structured and rigid. Like if we went full on one ad, like, would we die then? And then the answer to that was No. And so now I'm trying to find them the two. But it is I mean, that is anxious to plan for the future, I will say and that's something I'm working through. And luckily, this year, after two years, I finally having stability in my monthly income and things like that, and routines, but I mean, like it's been a The past year has been full experimentation.

Nick: 19:02

That's awesome. Okay, all right. So Shoebill you for that therapy session. Thank

Gabby Ianniello: 19:08

you. But again, that's everyone's journey has their own like, that was just mine came early, because I had a fucking breakdown in college, you know, but I mean, there's no rush. Everyone has their own journey. So

Nick: 19:18

do you feel that you were ever forced to go to college? I'm not trying to throw your parents under the bus or anything or do anything like that. But do you feel that you were forced maybe into doing some of that stuff, and it just got, but not like,

Gabby Ianniello: 19:32

it wasn't out of, you know, none of the things my parents told me to do, were out of malicious intent. Like they just wanted the best for me. But actually, my first degree or first thing I actually really wanted to pursue, was actually writing I really wanted to be a writer. And I actually was approached by a publisher for a rhyming children's book that I wrote, which is kind of cool. And I'm not going down that route, because I didn't have $2,000 to get the art which is so minimal now in comparison, but I actually Yeah, I know. But you know, in hindsight, I Moving forward now, but the other thing was actually archaeology. I wanted to be an archaeologist. And because I love Egypt and I love traveling and you could

Nick: 20:07

archaeologists, if you want to you be sitting there.

Gabby Ianniello: 20:14

I'm so excited about it. Now, I totally could have put my parents kind of like, well, if you do that route, you can't have a child who can't go the traditional route of school, no white picket fence. And at the time, I didn't see any other alternative. So I was like, Yeah, you're right. And so then I went to be a teacher, just like my cousin and my sister in law, like all these other people, my family were either firefighters, police officers, doctors or teachers. And so here I am. I'm actually the only child in my family who went to college, my brothers kind of got an easy they went through other methods of schooling, like once an electrician, the other ones doing a holistic thing. But I mean, it definitely I was like, fuck, I shouldn't, you know, part of me doesn't think that I should have went,

Nick: 20:49

Hmm, interesting. Interesting. That's the story. Like people are just like, you know, she must have been totally pushed into something to fucking, you know, have a breakdown, or if they weren't pushed enough, and that's why they're lazy. Or you know what I mean? There's always the whole thing. There's such a narrative for someone. Yeah. So everybody has a narrative about you. Right? No matter what

Gabby Ianniello: 21:08

choice though, anyway. I could have stayed in teaching and honestly had a good life. It just wouldn't have been a life. That's really exciting for me specifically, and what I wanted, right, like it would have been good. But I also, you know, they didn't say that I had to be a teacher, it was more of like, I didn't know what to do. And they were like, This is your best option. And I was like, Yeah, I don't know shit. So that's fine. I'll just do that.

Nick: 21:26

My brother's a high school teacher in Arizona. He's an art teacher, and he loves what he does. I don't know that he necessarily loves teaching in the school system, because he doesn't like some of that. But he loved that's

Gabby Ianniello: 21:37

a rabbit hole we can go. I mean, we

Nancy: 21:41

just came from Arizona. So yeah, he was telling us a little bit about that.

Gabby Ianniello: 21:44

That's one of the major reasons why I left teaching. Obviously, it was like it wasn't going to give me this sort of lifestyle that I want. Right, flexibility, and obviously the paycheck but the biggest thing was this common core bullshit that they were trying to teach me to then put on these kids. I was like, fuck this. Actually, fuck this. This is not this is all indoctrination. That has nothing to do with embracing children's wanting to play and explore. And like I was dealing with young kids. My degree was from preschool to sixth grade. I'm here teaching these kids and they're getting anxiety. They're pulling out their fucking hair over a test. No, I'm not gonna be part of this. Yeah, yeah. And I left. I'm not doing I'm sorry, I'm not gonna be the fucking person pushing this and not.

Nick: 22:19

Yeah, I mean, I guess Yeah, that would be a whole different topic. We could do this again. But that would be another whole podcast about Sure. Because he's in the same fucking boat. He's just like, it's just absolute. And he's an art teacher. So this isn't even

Gabby Ianniello: 22:33

even harder for him to in the sense of like, they don't have funding

Nick: 22:38

and funding and he puts his own money into the ship, like it's

Gabby Ianniello: 22:43

great. Teachers do.

Nancy: 22:44

We didn't realize that you know what I mean.

Nick: 22:48

So let's go back to though, since we got off a really cool tangent, but let's go back to the advice thing for old fucks. Because there's a lot of people, including myself, I'll tell you why. So what happened in the past year and a half, and people can listen to the podcast, they'll know exactly what's going on with that. We won't get into it. But it really opened our eyes. And we've personally learned a ton about life at 54 years old. It's weird, because like my mom, now my mom's like, 70 something and she says, Man, you know, Nick, you're so like, wise and blah, blah, blah. And I'm thinking to myself, like, that's nice, man. Like, it's nice. Doesn't know, like, she calls us. And then I think to myself, even though we're going through what we're going through right now with our son, that I believe he's even wiser than I was in his 30s. It's like this 20 year gap, of where y'all are just sort of coming up going, I don't want that fucking life. I didn't want the life My mom wanted. So I tried to change it up. You guys don't want the fucking life that we have. Right? So you're changing it up, spill some of that fucking good advice on some of these older people who are just feeling that, you know, life is what it is.

Gabby Ianniello: 24:07

The benefit that US Millennials had is the internet, obviously, right? If you don't have examples of people doing alternative shit, you're not going to know it exists, and you're not going to pursue it. So luckily, I set out you know, an early age, I think I was in middle school in the inner when I first got to play on the computer for the first time, you know, and by the time he's been in college, I was seeing all these posts on Instagram and all this shit about like, Oh, you mean I can like get this car and do this thing and have this job. Like it's a different sort of perspective on things. But I think the easiest thing and this is something I actually hadn't learned the hard way this past year with the journey that I've taken with corporate quitter is that it's not knowledge that you're after it's actually deprogramming that you're after. So the whole way you're gonna make progress is if you literally take it from the root and like rip out the shit that you've learned prior to get back to who you actually are so you can make progress in this new area of life. I don't know if that any if any of that like click sir. But I mean, like it's a deep sort of not like, oh, I read a book. I mean, like deep ripping of the roots. So that's why I think millennials are so balls to the walls is because we're like, Fuck it, let's just go to therapy, not even therapy therapy is too weak or like, again, give us the Ayahuasca, like, Let's go backpacking through Europe for like a fucking month without a phone. Like, let's just completely get back to where we need to be, as opposed to the kind of programmed version of ourselves that isn't really even ours. It's our parents essentially within us.

Nick: 25:24

Yeah. Okay.

Nancy: 25:26

All right. I'm just you know, you don't have to take

Nick: 25:30

any of the crazy coming out of her fucking years right now.

Gabby Ianniello: 25:34

There are other methodologies that are coming now that are not as abrasive they're very quick and easy. Like, there's this one called rest therapy, love it to death, it's not actually really reasonable for pricing and stuff like that. No puking or shitting involved. And essentially helps you get back to kind of the original event that they say is like, what triggered the trauma or what triggered the response. So like, if that's your problem, binge eating, or whatever it is, you think, oh, it's because of, I don't know, I have body image issues or like whatever it is, it actually is because maybe back then you and your dad gone to a car accident, and he ended up helping the passenger. Yeah, it helps you get back to the original event from when you were a kid and it rips the root out of that kind of thing of happening. So you don't respond in the same way and it's instantaneous. Within three days. It's completely cleared really, like truly no bullshit. See,

Nick: 26:19

that's that fucking millennial shit. Yeah.

Gabby Ianniello: 26:21

It's weird. But you know, it's actually based in Europe. neuroplasticity, like, there's deep science rooted within it. It's crazy. It is

Nick: 26:29

crazy. And I think I just want to encourage like, anybody who's listening, I don't care what fucking age you are. But anybody who's listening, especially like, people of our generation, to really just get out of your fucking head. And really, just like you just said, it's not about what you're learning. It's about deprogramming. And that to me, right there, just what you said, there is so fucking deep to me that alone, I'll probably take that from this whole conversation. And take that with me because that is the I talked about regurgitation. People are just living off of what they've been told over and over again. And it fucking makes me sick. And I have to, but I always knew that's what it was like, I hate fucking authority. I hate rules. I don't want anybody telling me what to do. I want to do whatever the fuck I want to do whenever I want to fucking do it. But I've always been subdued. I've always been, well, this could happen or well, that can happen not about well, this could happen. You know what I mean? Like you're here with you. When it happens. It happens.

Gabby Ianniello: 27:35

The cool thing is that when you fuck up enough times, you're like, oh, like, I survived. Like, I survived 100% of the days that I sucked up and you're like, Yeah, you're right. Yeah. I mean, how much worse could have possibly get, like losing? I mean, I don't know. I don't know how bad life can get but I mean, if you experience it once, you kind of you're become invincible. Really. You embrace don't give. Truly. And that's where like nothing you're basically everyone says to like, what makes them successful, or like, you know, you speak to people who've had just like, crazy success, like Lady Gaga as of the world and whatever. Almost all of them will say it's audacity and not skill or knowledge all you know, so it's, there's something to be said, there.

Nick: 28:15

That's awesome. I appreciate that. That's fucking deprogramming shit now is going to stick with me and I'm going to use it over and over again. So don't like copyrighted or anything, because I'll have to ask you if I can use it.

Gabby Ianniello: 28:27

Can I give you a challenge? Fuck yeah. Okay, so there's a you don't have to read this book by Shonda Rhimes called year vs. It's the woman who wrote Grey's Anatomy, she writes all the other stuff, you don't have to read the book. But the concept is to say yes to everything. And so you don't do it for a full year. Try it for maybe a day, try it for a week, try it for a month, I did it for a whole year. And that's partially why I did the naked retreat and other things and quitting a job like, yeah, and a lot of other things that were small, but really, like, took a big path, you know, for big country. And so ever since then, it's changed my perspective, like old version of Gabby would say no to this because I don't want to go out or I don't want to get ready or I'm a homebody or this is scary. Or this is going to cost money, or whatever it is. But now like new Gabby would say yes. Or and if she doesn't, let's just try it. And so it's actually open doors that open conversations or even like honestly jobs, and things have come out of the woodwork because I I basically had a year of yes, that's try that for a week. And it could be something like small to like,

Nick: 29:21

oh, yeah, I was gonna say because she's already having an anxiety attack over here. She's literally like gasping for air. I mean,

Gabby Ianniello: 29:29

again, it can be small. So like for example, if someone asked me hey, can I have $1 Sure you can have $1 and then end up having a conversation with that person and learn something new where like you actually feel better about yourself because you able you were able to give back or like you know someone asked for advice and all of a sudden you're on your you know, one of your employees or you're chatting them up for an hour and you learn so much about them and this happens in the I don't know it's just yeah, you never know where it's gonna take you you don't have to say like my a lot of my big yeses that year for example. I like went on a cabo trip for free with this guy with a bunch of people had no I should not have gone but it was a great learning experience. and also fucked up shit happen on that trip. But again like man, it's it's another experience to tuck in my belt have stories to share for the future which was valuable for me.

Nick: 30:09

Yeah, the cool thing is I'll be talking to her about like this 50 acres I want and she has to say yes.

Gabby Ianniello: 30:16

Okay, that's manipulation

Unknown: 30:22

to each other world coming.

Nick: 30:28

So you have a lot of yeses you say yes to a lot of things. We have a lot of shit going on. You've done a lot. But there's also people who told you to fuck off. Oh, all the time. A big thing for people is they can't take fucking rejection for ship. It still sucks.

Gabby Ianniello: 30:43

I mean, 100%

Nick: 30:45

I interviewed a girl that her life was about being rejected at a young age at a young young it affected her it affected her life. I mean, it's fucked up. So spill some rejection, how do you deal with the rejection? Because

Nancy: 31:01

I mean, you know, you're saying go for it and do all this stuff. But part of that is rejection hills that, yeah, like, What the hell did I do? Why did I do this? You know, why did I listen to you quit my job?

Gabby Ianniello: 31:13

No, I know, people have said that to me, too. So part of me is like, Oh my God, I feel responsible. But the end of the day, and how do you make you do anything? Yeah, whatever. Disclaimer, yeah, but a rejection is a hard thing. Because sometimes rejection is masked in other ways. A big rejection. For me, it wasn't even a direct rejection. But it was something that actually almost fucked me up for a really good time. Basically, two years ago, before I went viral, and like corporate quarter even became what it was about midway through the summer, I started to do like videos online, like kind of started to do what I do now, which is like documenting everything which people love. But at the time, I was dating someone who hated it, and he would walk up vocalize I hate this, and I think it's cringy. And you'd be like, my friends are making fun of you. Like he was very vocal about it. And yet everyone else in my world was like, okay with it, when I would ask my brother like, is it a guy thing? Like, what am I doing wrong? And he's like, no, no, no, he's probably just insecure, like you guys should talk about it was the first fight we ever gotten to. And I remember being in my backyard sobbing because that all I wanted to do was for him to understand, like, this is my creative process. And I'm going to try this for 30 days, please, let's just see what happens. Just trust me. And you know it within 29 days, I went mega viral, I hit major 45,000 people had seen something. And that's what started all of this. And he never wants to apologize. And even when the media tour came, never congratulated it for me, you know, he was just always like, oh, like, must be nice. Oh, I should have that because I'm more successful than breaking up for good reasons. But honestly, up until this past summer, it was still haunting me. And it was helping, it was turning and holding me back for a really long time. So rejection, in that sense, was just actually someone who I loved and cared for. And that was the only person's approval I really wanted was so deeply rooted to the point that I was shutting myself down. And I wasn't letting myself be as sparkly as I could have been. Which is crazy, because I'm already crazy to begin with. I think of now like, again, use the person that I saw on my Austin trip, like, wow, this is me fully expressed, like, and the cringe veil has kind of been lifted. Like I literally don't care anymore. What could possibly happen. But that took two years to kind of remove that out. Net something injection is very heavy, and it's just a matter of finding tools that work for you. So at one point in time, it was like heavy exercise. And I realized, I don't like this, so let's do something different. So it became weird shit, like, Okay, let's go dance around it like full moon circles. And then it became like, okay, let's just like read, Let's meditate. Let's go on vacations on paint. Like it was a variety. Anything. I mean, sometimes it's just because go for a walk and listen to a podcast. That's funny. Like, I mean, it doesn't have to be again, crazy. But it's finding ways to mitigate the trigger response that happens when you get rejected both in the way of, let's say, a nasty comment or getting a no from a prospective client. Or for the most people, it's rejection from your immediate family and friends who are seeing you try something new, because they're uncomfortable because you're doing something that they wish they could do.

Nick: 33:48

Yes. Oh, yeah. 100%. Okay. That's where it mostly goes to anyway. Right. Exactly. Okay. So cool. I mean, dude, this has been a cool conversation for me. I mean, I'm so excited that you said yes. And didn't reject us.

Gabby Ianniello: 34:05

Come on, I wouldn't say no.

Nick: 34:09

So where are you at? Now? What are you doing now? Because I know we've seen that there's a couple other things going on. You got some weird shit going on. You have a lot of shit going on? Not sure. What did I even did I even hear well, maybe I shouldn't know anything. Nothing's ask the question. So I mean, you're you I saw that you're even like even with the podcast, you're thinking about maybe getting rid of it or selling it?

Gabby Ianniello: 34:33

Yeah, that's been so there's a lot of things in the works. So again, like the I've been kind of putting seeds out and making having conversations and again, like being in flow is when things come in easily. And so trouble months ago, I stopped the podcast just because I was kind of losing direction like after 125 episodes is kind of the same shit. You're like, what am I gonna do now? Right? At one point, I was talking to a couple different people talking like numbers and like how could I sell this as a business as well as like, my intellectual property and like where it could be headed? But I also realized that Corp Whatever, even if it's not necessarily I'm not tied to corporate anymore, it could still be my brand, right? It's still who I am. It's what I embody. Beyond that, you know, so it's in its infancy in terms of being rebranded and figuring out what that's going to look like. But I do have a craving to get back into it. Because naturally, I really like being in the podcast world. But the past two year, I would say, I've been doing more consulting work as I've been on hiatus with the show, so helping people launch their shows do digital, normal, all that stuff. Yeah, social media script, writing for videos, all of that. And then of course, I mean, there's a huge list of things that I do, right, I have my painting stuff people have inquired to sell like to buy them, but I'm just not in the place of selling them yet. I do have an art exhibit that's probably going to I think it's happening winter of this year, which is really exciting. I'm writing a manuscript like I just, I a lot of things just drop in very quickly, and then I run with it. And that's kind of the way I operate is it'll be quiet, like crickets for a while. And I was gonna say, I don't

Unknown: 35:51

know what kind of crickets this

Gabby Ianniello: 35:56

guy Yes. Which, yeah, you get it. So it's like crickets in the sense of like, I'm not zigging and zagging throughout the day is like, Oh, we're just like street light. Like we're flatlining today. Yeah, that, to me is a quiet dead day. But so my focus is really just being in flow, like maintaining this happy sort of bubbly kind of self that I'm in and being around people who also make me feel this way and doing things that reflect that so that I can call in more of those opportunities that fall into nowhere. But so now I'm just kind of trying to figure out okay, what's this next iteration? How are we blending all the things that I've been doing? The brand deals with the consulting work with? Now, again, the manuscript and the publisher, I'm talking to you like just a lot of random stuff that's going on, so that I can leave and go back to Austin, which is ultimately where I want to be. And that was a clear confirmation after lax week trip. I know. Yeah, we wants me just as much as I want.

Nick: 36:43

I think that's awesome. And I think that corporate quitter I seen as it worked for you in the very beginning, because that's what it was. I think of it, though, as an all around thing in life, right, that can be applied to anything. Quitting anything that's fucked up or not even done with. That's pretty awesome. Thanks for you're doing like the consulting and shit. So where can people actually then find you and get a hold of you? And we can tell you that you won't be fucking disappointed. And they've now know who you are. Because they know what a crazy nut job that you are in. It's so fucking awesome to us. Where do you want me to go to find you?

Gabby Ianniello: 37:28

Yeah, I mean, obviously, corporate quarters easiest thing to find the highest in the Google search all over social my handles are corporate Twitter. But I also have a personal website called Gabby, I Anello my name. And then the actual agency as she likes to gab. So that's where you'll find like a blog that has resources like free things for you. Yeah. So we've got a lot of different things going on, depending on what your flavor is essentially.

Nick: 37:49

Cool. Thank you so much. So yeah, thanks. So we'll have to get back together again. Or if you get the podcast gone, we'll just shoot the ship and have fun with it. Oh,

Gabby Ianniello: 37:58

you guys are definitely coming on for sure to talk business but we obviously will. Of course, yeah. Packed up stories. Alright, girl. All right. Love you. Thanks. Thank you.